Blast From the Past

Thanks to Friction Powered, a forum devoted to this case, I ran across some vintage Gojo from October of 2007. What a joy that was! At the time, I think he had already been banned from WebSleuths. He was posting at the Friction Powered blog, Bonnie’s Blog of Crime, CyberSleuths, Refugees Unleashed, and various other blogs and fora. Pretty much everywhere the case was mentioned, Gojo showed up to muddy the discussion.

An example:

Why won’t Jason submit to a grilling? I’ve never asked him, he’s never said, but I have a guess. Same answer, I reckon: he trusts his lawyer. Plus, the cops blew it. They insulted him right off by accusing him of killing his wife

People don’t seem to realize how mountain folk react to a deadly insult. If we can’t fight you, we avoid you until our turn comes. And it will. We’re storing ammunition for that day.

HOWEVER, I think if Jason knew something that would help the cops, he would get the information to them. He wouldn’t deliberately let the killer walk. JMO, of course.

Gojo often refers to what most of us see as a police interview as a “grilling.” Why? Is he simply enamored of old detective fiction lingo? Or is it merely in aid of his persona as an independent “mountain man,” suspicious of any and all authority? He tells us that Jason was “insulted” by police. The insult must have been delivered pretty fast, as he only had the one conversation with police on the phone. He hung up. I guess, because he was insulted. And, of course, because he was accused of killing his wife, it was a “deadly insult.” Never mind that the police said it was the most gruesome crime scene they had ever seen. Never mind that the spouse is ALWAYS the first suspect. Jason is “special,” and should always be treated with kid gloves.

Of course, we have only Gojo’s word that the incident happened that way, and we all know exactly how much that is worth, don’t we?

I especially love this:

People don’t seem to realize how mountain folk react to a deadly insult. If we can’t fight you, we avoid you until our turn comes. And it will. We’re storing ammunition for that day.

I have seen the fine town of Brevard, NC. In this day and age, we are not talking about a scattered collection of shacks clinging precariously to the mountainside. This is a normal small college town, with paved streets, chain stores and restaurants, hotels and kitschy tourist shops. Gojo’s “mountain folk” and their attitudes haven’t existed for a couple of generations.

He’s pulling your legs, people! Yanking your chains.

Bless His Heart!

The old coot is back! New nickname–”clueme,” and a feeble attempt to disguise his style, but for a retired teacher of English and Journalism, he doesn’t do that very well. A part, no doubt, of the dumbing down of America. Here’s a quote from InSessions:

You think there could be something not related directly to the murder ? I mean, like, maybe there is something else he won,t or can’t talk about and Linda and Meredith are taking advantage of what ever that might be to get what they want? They must be really desperate to take a daughter away from her father, what’s that about anyway ?

“Something not related to the murder.” Something Jason can’t or won’t talk about, that he would be required to answer in a suit for shared custody of his daughter. It would have to be something pretty bad, wouldn’t it? I see nothing in the court documents pertaining to the Custody of Michelle’s daughter that would have been a problem…except the pesky matter of that Psychological Evaluation (cost to be borne by Jason). Was that what he was trying to avoid?

Get used to it, Gojo…Jason VOLUNTARILY gave up primary custody of his daughter to the people he had been working very hard to keep away from her. I think that, had he allowed the Fishers reasonable access to Michelle’s daughter, it would not have come to a custody suit. But, he couldn’t do that, could he, Gojo? No telling what she would have told them…Jason was desperate to keep her away from them…but, with the suit, he was desperate to avoid that psych eval, or to avoid answering questions. Desperate enough to agree to allowing Meredith Fisher to be his daughter’s primary custodial guardian. Pretty damn desperate, if you ask me.

In answer to this post:

Originally Posted by tiny paw-prints
Well, since I believe Jason murdered his wife and unborn son, I wonder what his point of desperation was? Financial gain? Premeditated?

Murdering not one human being, but two? Seems like such an awful and “desperate” thing to do—wouldn’t you agree?

Gojo (excuse me–clueme) says:

I agree, seems desperate to me, no matter who did it. Ive also read stories about women with biological clocks ticking who do desperate things. Do you agree?

So the old reprobate is again trying to imply that Meredith murdered her sister. Not so anyone can come back and accuse him of accusing her…but it’s there. You know it and I know it. Getting his point across without actually saying it is something that Gojo is good at. Very passive-aggressive is our Gojo.

Here’s another lovely quote:

I cannot imagine myself desperate enough to rip a child away from her father, maybe you can. I think the father did not ‘willingly’ give up custody. He could not imagine someone desperate enough to use our legal system to do it. I cannot imagine a legal system that would allow it, but it does exist. And some desperate people will use it. Can you admire such a desperate person?

Once again, Gojo is reading Jason’s mind. Jason has shown himself surprisingly apt in his own use of the justice system, having acquired a lawyer very early on in the murder investigation; a lawyer from a reputedly high-powered firm. Subsequent to that event, Jason has not opened his mouth to defend himself or assist with the police inquiries. He has required a court order to give DNA samples and fingerprints and such, delaying that process as long as he legally could, in order to allow healing of any little scratches or contusions he might have had. The man is not naive about the legal system.

Another quote:

Whether or not anyone in the family is guilty, the inlaws did rip that little girl away from her father. Without any feelings for the little girl. This reeks of desperation and I don’t know how the inlaws can sleep at night. Maybe they don’t sleep well. You think the inlaws were also after the money? If so may the money rot their souls.

Au contraire, mon frere, Jason ripped Michelle’s little girl away from everything familiar to her and whisked her off to a place she had only visited in the past. Never mind that he ripped her mother out of her life, and left her with her Mommy’s beaten body. I am not entirely sure what money Gojo refers to, here. If it’s the insurance, I’m pretty sure the Fishers have said that it’s for Michelle’s daughter. I’m sure there is a Social Security stipend available for the little girl’s care. Perhaps he refers to that. To say that the Fishers have no feelings for that little girl is projection, pure and simple.

More:

He did what he had to do. The inlaws did not. They did what they wanted to do. So yes. I can admire a person who does what he has to do. I have nothing but disgust toward anyone who deliberately harm’s a child. Do you deny the child has been harmed by the inlaws? I think you are smart enough to see that the inlaws did it on purpose. They werent concerned with the innocent bystander.

I deny that Michelle’s daughter has been harmed by her Aunt Meredith and Grandmother Fisher. I’d like to know what grounds Gojo has for such an accusation. Of course they went after custody “on purpose.” Just how would one do that accidentally? What a silly thing to say! They did it because they were concerned for the welfare of their niece and granddaughter. they had to sneak around behind her father’s back to even get to see her! Any loving relative would be concerned, and to say they weren’t is ridiculous.

Maybe when the girl is old enough to realize what was done to her and why. She will tell te inlaws to keep the money. That would show character.

Part of the custody agreement was that both parties would make reasonable efforts to keep the media from harassing Michelle’s child, which is probably why Gojo refers to her here as “the girl,” but it still sounds cold, coming from him. However, he has kind of hoist himself on his own petard. If “She will tell te inlaws to keep the money,” it would have to be because she had an understanding that it was hers to dispose of at will. That rather nullifies Gojo’s insinuation that the Fishers sued for primary custody of the little girl in order to get their hands on Michelle’s life insurance and SSI benefits, doesn’t it?

So, once again, Gojo is flapping his typing fingers to no purpose, except to stir up the little cadre of insane “Jason Is Innocent And Meredith Is Guilty” diehards on the InSessions message board.

Ho, Ho

“Turn in Your Thermometer and Hit the Road! You are One Massive HIPPA Violation, Jason Young!”

The Stench of Rotting Garbage…

NCWanted Draws Gojo Back to the Fray

kingbuff
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 421
What Jason said: “You came HERE for that?!”

Unsaid: Here? To a basketball game? Here? When
I’m hot, sweaty, and trying to fill my water bottle? Here?
You want to talk to me about the tragic death of my wife
and unborn son? Do the village elders of Raleigh know
they have lost their IDIOT????
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Headwaters will fountain
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Gojo shows us his elegant journalistic bipartisan objectivity in this little post. Plainly heard on the NCWanted video is Jason saying, “You came here for that?”

Yet, Gojo deliberately tries to convince us that we cannot believe our own ears, and that the emphasis was REALLY on the word “here.”

Oh…and then he posts that he can read Jason’s mind!

(Yes, ladies and germs, Gojo the Great will put on his Karnack turban and tell us what Jason was thinking!)

Frankly, if there was anything going through Jason’s mind, other than “Oh, SHIT,” I will be very surprised!

But wait…there’s more!

kingbuff
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 421
What the gym supervisor said: “You men ought to leave.”

Unsaid: I’m the only protection you have here tonight.
I’m going to lock these doors for five minutes. That will
give you Raleigh idiots time to hit the road. Some of
the guys want to have a piece of you. This is a
public facility so you idiots do what you want.
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Headwaters will fountain

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If that little weasel is the only protection anyone has, I feel sorry for the protectee! We hear that the only person sticking up for Jason (was he the one who threw the ball at the camera man?) is a new guy…I wonder who was really looking for a piece of whom.

Jason ran to complain…and got the doors to a public place locked for him. That is so wrong! Nobody on that crew had weapons. they were doing nothing but asking questions and running a video camera.

Still, Jason could have said, “No comment,” and no harm would have been done. Instead, when the name of his deceased wife was mentioned, along with her murder, he said, “You came here for that?” No wonder his high-class law firm told him to keep his mouth shut! Anything that comes out of it says “GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY!”

“…for THAT?”

So insignificant. So…two years ago. So…”Geez! Move ON, already! She’s dead. I’ve moved on…why can’t you?”

Get with the program, Gojo. Jason has no “Picture,” like Dorian Gray had. His sin, his crime, his depravity, is writ large all over his face.

Game Over…

North Carolina Justice?

Mountain of Evidence: The State of North Carolina vs. Jason Lynn Young

Transylvania County Pick Up…

Murder Mambo, Courtesy of Luminol…

Jason’s Dating Game

Gojo Defends his Minion

Originally Posted by Reinya
No, I’m thinking more that someone just like you killed Michelle. You did post that Jason ruined your life, didn’t you? It’s very possible someone Jason “wronged” decided to exact vengeance on his wife.
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Is this what brought about all the drama? Which part of
‘just like you’ do you not understand? Chill out, girl.

It’s people just like you who get boards shut down with
all the drama and anguish.

It’s people just like you who post dramatic best-forgotten
wails: “He ruined my life!” You want to explain it, do. If
you want to let it hang there for others to shoot at, do.

It’s people just like you who blindly insist that no one but
Jason murdered Michelle. People just like you pretend to
believe no other theory is believable.

People just like you should apologize for the histrionics and discuss the case intelligently.
Everyone on the board realizes what someone just like you is doing.

The moderator, a woman just like you, has more to do than to
dry your crocodile tears.

==Kingcole

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That is all ye know on earth,
And all ye need to know.

…And people just like you should get a grip, do some research, and realize that Jason Lynn Young was THE ONLY PERSON who had means, motive and opportunity to kill Michelle.  Instead of digging dirt on Michelle’s family, blaming message board posters, and defending the indefensible, grow a pair and stand up the the murdering coward.  He could still turn himself in and save his family the expense and embarrassment of a trial.

Jason Polishes His Resumé

Exxy note:  I don’t have to remind any of you that “Kingcole” is Gojo, right?

http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/blogpost/3839388/

Here is a link to another post:

http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/blogpost/3797952/

Here is a quote from the second link:

“In the many unsolved cases we’ve profiled, a trend has caught our attention:  victims’ families are often at odds with their case investigators.

How can this be? Investigators are heroes working countless hours to identify perpetrators, right? 

Recently, we learned that one of our cherished investigators is facing harsh criticism for the handling of a case. Making matters worse, the blistering rebukes are coming from people we love, support and stay in contact with: the family members of the victim.”

Now, I interpret “one of OUR investigators” to mean one of the police investigating the Michelle Young case.  However, Gojo (Kingcole) and other posters at InSessions choose to interpret the statement to refer to “Agent 050″ himself, and they also choose to believe that “Agent 050″ is one of the board posters who believes that Jason is guilty of this murder, to wit, RPD.

Perhaps “Agent 050″ could clarify this in a future entry…

Quote:

Originally Posted by june1943  Anybody seen NCW latest. Does wral know what kind of person they are dealing with? Wonder if he is getting paid for this foolishness? http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/blogpost/3839388/

Thanks, June, for letting me see this. I admit I was surprised
to see the Secret Agent guy praising Gojo like that. I really had
the idea he was not one of Gojo’s buds. You reckon maybe Gojo
is actually a Super Secret Agent at NCW and that’s why Agent 050
admires him? Hard to know what to believe any more.

But this boardis not about Gojo or Agent 050. Any praise here
belongs to Michelle and the police who are working to find
the killers.

I don’t blame the Fishers for the ‘blistering rebukes’ aimed
at those who attempt to drive a wedge between the Fishers
and the Youngs. Those jerks need to be harshly rebuked
and silenced.

==Kingcole

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TARO! Throw All the Rascals Out! Vote Libertarian/Write-in!

Gojo, I believe there has always been a wedge between the Youngs and the Fishers.  You, as their unofficial spokesman have appeared to be fighting the Civil War.  If your neighbors agree with you, they could not have been all that thrilled when their precious Jason married a Yankee girl from New York (get a rope)!  Of course, the situation was exacerbated when Jason killed Michelle.  Personally, I see no hope at all of a true reconciliation between the two families until Jason is charged, arrested, tried and convicted.  Then, maybe, if the Youngs can come to terms with the guilt of their precious Jason, the other family members can at least communicate.  For Cassidy’s sake, if nothing else.

 

Play Through…

Brevardian Buffoonery

This afternoon, we found out that Linda Fisher did, indeed file a Wrongful Death suit against her son-in-law.  Gojo says:

I reckon you’ll just have to wait for
my thoughts on this. If Linda is foolish enough
to pursue this suit, you will get to hear the truth
about this and other issues. In the meantime, you
can ask Linda about the matter. Should be interesting.

For once you are right!  This will be interesting!  All of y’all’s dirt you made up about Linda and Meredith exposed for the filth it is.

If Linda is foolish enough
to pursue this suit, you will hear some awkward
explanations….but not from Jason. I wouldn’t
be surprised to see a Perry Mason “got ya!” moment.
Should be interesting.

Why don’t you just bring it on, O Ignorant One?

when you hear someone say, “It’s not the money,”
then it is the money. But in this case, I believe Linda will be
disappointed and will regret letting the cops push her into this
foolishness.

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What makes you think the police had any hand in this?  My guess would be that they would have steered her away from doing it, if they didn’t think he will be charged.

“Sooner Than Later…”

Jason’s Fun in the Big Apple…

Puerto Rico Revisited – Mr. and Mrs. Clueless Make a Jason Sandwich

Jason’s Cell Phone Bill – Money Well Spent?

Did Gojo Give Away His Password?

gojo

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:07 pm       I know you-all mean well, but I don’t see why you bring all those obvious lies back to the board. Gojo knew there was blood there, and the rest makes a good story. You believe Gojo? JTF posted about the tiny footprints in the bath but didn’t say anything about prints in a bedroom or anywhere else, did he? It just makes a good story.We now know the cops took the bloody pillow with them and probably the bloody bed things too. He told a good story about the tooth too. The cops told the media the tooth was a fragment was tiny and in a hidden location, like under the bed. Do we believe cops or Gojo? Not a hard choice for me. Don’t know why you-all believe all the stories about the trip to Brevard, to get furniture or whatever. Two calls to Michelle, one to his mom, one to get permission. The cops don’t mention any of that, do we believe the cops or Gojo? Not a hard choice for me. The only ones who believe in Jason now are his true friends. The others have bailed. About time, don’t you think ? _________________ “A public trial does nothing, zero, zilch. If it filters out ‘true friends’, then great.” The “obvious lies” were posts made by Gojo himself, back in the early days of the investigation, after he claimed to have been in the Birchleaf house.  He later backtracked, and said he had looked at photos of the scene. Gojo has posted on many forums, under many names, trying to disguise his writing.  After all, as an English Teacher, and Journalism Teacher, he should be able to do that, right? He was outed fairly rapidly. This is the first time I’ve known him to post in the third person, though.  So, either he’s trying something new (after a long silence), or somebody else logged in with his password. Any bets?

Gojo Hits A NEW New Low

Relax, Indie. Here, have a piece of gum.

“….and would often leave her gum and candy on her desk – items she said she would often share with coworkers and her husband.”

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4102252/

–Gojo
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“Though the cause of Evil prosper, yet ‘t is Truth alone is strong….”
–James Russell Lowell

 

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This looks innocuous, until you click on the link.  It takes you to a news story about a guy who entered a woman’s office while she was out and masturbated, touching things, including candy and gum, with the same hand he used to …well…you know.

That makes Gojo’s offer of a piece of gum really gross.

Things must be getting tense in Brevard.   Especially on Mockingbird Lane.

He got a three day suspension from the Friction Powered forum for that little bit of perversion.

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Meanwhile, over at InSessions, he has a new nickname, and is back, spewing  innuendo about the victim:

kingbuff Registered User   Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 7

Quote: Originally Posted by Hey Paula Hi JHP! The judge apparently believed the therapist’s notes were so relevant to Michelle’s murder that she was ordered to release them. Because info a patient discloses to their therapist is privileged, it is unusual for a judge to order its release. I think whatever Michelle related to Ms Sargent might be viewed as a motive for her murder. If JY had transgender issues, Michelle might not have shared that info with anyone except the therapist. IMO Do you think it possible Michelle was the one with TG issues? Not saying she did. Is that something the judge would have ordered releashed as a possible motive?

“releashed”

Is he trying to be (inappropriately) funny, or is that a typo?

I am of the opinion that this case is crazy enough, without suggesting that the VICTIM had transgender issues.

Gojo can’t subscribe to the KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) way of thought, because keeping it simple invariably brings it home to Jason Lynn Young.

It’s so difficult to maintain support for a suspect who refuses to defend himself.  Gojo screamed for months on the boards, and even went so far as to contact news media about their characterization of the contact between Jason and Michelle Money as “an affair.”  Lo and behold…in the Probable cause section of one of the warrants, it is stated that they DID, IN FACT have an affair.  A physical, break-your-wedding-vows, two-backed-beast, twenty-toes-under-the-sheets, extra-marital schtupp-fest.

Gojo sure wound up with egg on his face over that one!

While this new insinuation, that (perhaps) Michelle Young had TG issues, seems a bit half-hearted, it shows that the faithful teacher-dog is still sniffing at Jason’s crotch in a friendly manner.

After this is all over, I bet he will go fishing and never come back.

Jason’s Affidavit…

Réclame…

Snowbunny…

Jason’s Co-Counsel…

Jason’s Construction Work…

Gojo Hits the Bourbon Again

Well, heck. Who/What are these people afraid of? Somebody named Campbell (doesn’t post here)….Somebody posting as B/S (pretending to be from Brevard)….Numerous girls. They say I am “some sort of friend of the Youngs” (whatever that means). They say I will hurt Jason in a “civil arena” (whatever that means). Then they threaten me with attorneys and prosecutors and the police….and a jury, for God’s sake. These people strongly suggest I should never post again because I have revealed so many intimate details about Jason and his family and how this is so hurtful to Jason’s case. Everything these people post is an attempt to hurt Jason and his family while everything I post I do so without considering whether or not the information is helpful or harmful to this innocent man because I am only concerned with the truthfulness of the information and not how someone else can twist or distort it. Twist away. Distort away. Well, heck. Who/What are these people afraid of? –Kingbuff

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Put down the bottle, Gojo, and back away from the computer.

Here’s the post he’s talking about:

I’ve read some of the post on IS from a “kingbuff”. It appears that that he is passing himself off as some sort of a friend of the Youngs. I wonder if they are truly aware of some of the things that he post online. I would not want a client of mine to have any connection to someone like “kingbuff”. His actions could hurt them in a civil arena.

“Kingbuff” make several strange claims. He claims on one hand that Jason can explain all the evidence that has been released to the public through search warrants and the like. However, for some strange reason he doesn’t choose to do so and would rather wait until the case proceeds to a trial. I know of no attorney that would ever allow their client to be arrested proceed to trial if they had evidence that would clear their name. Most likely, Jason’s attorney knows that he is guilty and he has told him not to talk under any circumstances.

“Kingbuff” also seems to be preoccupied with Jason being “grilled” by the police. Once again, he doesn’t know what he is talking about. In NC all interviews and interrogations of homicide suspects are now videotaped. In addition, Jason’s attorney would be present at any interview and could advise Jason on which questions to answer or not answer. However, if the attorney is aware of Jason’ s probable guilt, it would be better to keep silent all together.

All in all, “kingbuff” would serve his friend better by following his friends example. I’m sure that his history of postings and his connection to the Youngs has been recorded by the Fisher’s attorneys and by the prosecutors or the police. It will be interesting to see how a jury views some of the nasty things that he has had to say about the victim’s family.

I think the real question might be, “what is Gojo afraid of?”

Of course, we all know the answer to that, don’t we?

Blood Alley…

Lube Monkey…

Pink Slip: Besides His Puppetry, Nurses Discover Jason’s Talent for Juggling…

Jason’s New Ad on Craigslist: I’M FREE FROM BABYSITTING AND MY DEAD END JOB ! I am available and eager for you to spend your hard earned cash on ME. email me. PHOTOS ARE A MUST.

Naptime…

Jason’s Next Construction Job…

When Jay’s Friends Talk… SBI Listens.

There’s a Thin Line Between Love & Hate

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:53 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

petulant wrote:

lucy, I just love that story! awareness – I bet “the girls” are feasting on some fun food and talking about doing nails, hair, PJ party, and all kinds of girlie things. This is what she needs, with lots of memories of her sweet mother in the conversation. A night of home movies is in order somewhere down the line.

Yeah, you’ve got the idea. ….and Meredith can talk about Sleeping Beauty who fell on the floor….and Linda can teach her imitation heartbroken moans….and they can teach Cassidy how to cry…. .

…and maybe they can take a field trip to the cemetery…. Yeah, sure sounds like lots of fun. Just what a child needs. –Gojo

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For a man who has frequently crossed the boundaries of good taste, this is a new low.

What does Jason talk to her about?  And you…what do you talk to her about?  Fishing?

Do you think that forgetting her mother is the way to go?  How could even you be that dense?

You think her father should be the one to tell her about her mother?

What does he know?  No…really.  What does he know?  She was his main squeeze.  She got pregnant.  He married her.  I wonder if he really listened when she told him about herself.  Did her stories go in one ear and out the other?  Does he know when she had the chicken pox?  The name of her first date?  What her senior prom dress looked like?  How it feels to wear a bikini?  What’s the best conditioner for her kind of hair?

Jason knows nothing about Michelle, except that he regretted having to get married.  She was an obstacle.  He came to hate her.

Gojo, I really can’t convince myself that Jason is the best person to be telling Cassidy about Michelle.  Your overt hostility, whether directed at Meredith and Linda, or at people offering their opinions on a message board, should be harnessed in the name of Justice instead of defending the indefensible.

Equating a child’s visit to her mother’s grave to a “field trip,”  is insufferable.  Your sarcasm on this topic is revolting.

Of course, you are revolting.  Period.

Woh. How Did I Miss This?

“And yet, there are some things I regret….a little. Like when I learned the cops had talked to the workers at the day care. You see, for the past year or so I have managed to pass along some false information to your spy there….or is that secret agent 052? I did it just to fool around with you and Linda.…did Linda ever get the ‘documents’ she asked for?

I regret it…a little….because it’s possible agent 052 gave some of my foolishness to the cops and they might think it is solid insider information. So I’ll confess to you and you can tell your cop buds whatever you want to tell them.
I certainly don’t want to mislead the detectives investigating the case. The stuff I made up was not meant for them so I am not guilty of interfering with them. I reckon I am guilty of interfering somewhat with you and Linda. But….that I don’t regret.

And by the way, your agent is safe from me. At first we were all angry that she was giving out private information. But then we cooled down and figured she wasn’t doing any harm. We have no grudge against her and certainly don’t want her fired for her indiscretions. “

–Gojo

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Gojo has a very paranoid personality.  Imagine thinking that a poster on a message board has “spies” and “agents” in a day care!  Please!
There are several reasons that people gather on crime message boards to discuss cases.  Some are armchair sleuths and like to try to determine the outcome of the case.  These people have no emotional stake in any one case, and usually prefer cases that are quickly solved.  Some are touched by the circumstances surrounding a particular case.   This case has attracted quite a few of those, including myself.  The beautiful young mother, so badly beaten, and her child, prattling on the 911 tape about washcloths and booboos, was enough to melt hearts tougher than mine.  Some people only follow certain types of cases, such as serial killings, or child murders, or spousal murders.  I fall into this category, too, as I have followed several child murders and spousal murders.

We puzzle, we analyze, we try to think of ways to prevent such crimes from occurring over and over and over again.

Enter Gojo, who has a whole different agenda.  He is acquainted with the prime suspect (now civilly declared SLAYER), Michelle’s husband, Jason.  So his focus is, naturally, to defend his acquaintance.

Some of us felt sorry for Gojo, in the beginning.  It can’t be easy to hear of one’s friend accused of killing his wife.

But, with every new search warrant and its extremely informative Probable Cause, more circumstantial evidence has stacked up against the SLAYER.  Gojo has spent hours poring over this, trying to twist and spin the truth into lies.
Here, in the post quoted above, he admits that he thinks another poster in this case has a “spy” or “agent” planted in Cassidy’s day care.  I am not actually willing to believe that.  Still, for sake of argument, I will accept the statement for now.

“I did it just to fool around with you and Linda.”

The “you” in this sentence refers to the object of Gojo’s paranoia, an active poster in several forums discussing this case.  The poster in question firmly believes Jason killed Michelle and the couple’s unborn child.  Fooling around with a poster in a forum is reprehensible enough, but most of us can take care of ourselves.  Fooling around with the mother of a murder victim, and grandmother of a child to whom she is being denied access is, however, despicable.  I sure hope my children’s teachers have  functional moral compasses.  This retired teacher obviously does not.

“I reckon I am guilty of interfering somewhat with you and Linda. But….that I don’t regret.”

The man thinks that messing with the emotions and mental state of a grieving mother is just hunky-dory.  He doesn’t regret it.  He sounds sort of proud of it, doesn’t he?

“We have no grudge against her and certainly don’t want her fired for her indiscretions.”

He’s talking here about the supposed “spy.”  So, maybe he doesn’t really believe she was introduced into the daycare by the object of Gojo’s paranoia.  Maybe she is a regular employee.  He doesn’t want her fired.  How nice of him.  We do know that he has managed to get one or two people fired from their jobs for spreading the word that Jason killed Michelle.
I wonder if he is using the royal “we,” or if he is listening to the voices in his head.

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Less than 24 hours later:

What information? I don’t know squat. Ask anyone.

I reckon it was someone else who lied to Linda. I hardly know the woman. If I arranged to pass on false information about Jason’s private life to a secret agent, that doesn’t mean I lied to Linda. The agent didn’t have to tell Linda anything.

But lie on the boards? Not I.

–Gojo

The Patsy…

Another Flatlander Calls on Mockingbird Lane…

Debate Tactics

In college debate we called this false cause-and-effect reasoning. Effect: He signed a consent agreement? Cause: A search warrant about medicine??? See how ridiculous that is? By the way, the medical SW was executed July 2007. The consent agreement was signed February 2009. Does anyone still see a connection? And then we see the either/or trick some posters have protested when it was tried by others. We pretend a fact has been established (Jason overmedicated his daughter). Then we compound the trick by giving only two choices unrelated to each other (he did it the night of the murder or he did it behind Michelle’s back) with no proof he did either and without giving other options. We then pretend to engage the readers by asking an obvious question. If in July 2007 the police thought Cassie was in danger, would they wait until Feb. ‘09 to urge the Fishers to remove her from the danger? No. The police would have acted immediately to bring in child protection services. This makes it seem we have no confidence in the police. This post also seems to underestimate the intelligence of the posters on this board. We think others don’t see through our weak arguments? I think it obvious I am not the brightest light on the board, so when even I can point out logic failures, I imagine others just laugh and move on.

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Once again, Gojo states the obvious.  He obviously feels the need to be obvious about it.

Gojo, I thought you retired.  When you start digging through the boxes in the garage for old lesson plans…I gotta tell you…you need a hobby.

You are always telling us that you like to fish.  Is that enough?   Is it still too cold to go?

I have an idea.  You could write a book:  “My Wasted Bytes, Or How To Defend the Indefensible”

This is just another smokescreen.

The bottom line on the medicines is that Jason told Pat that he had given Cassidy adult medicines, which he claimed to have diluted with water.  Sounds to me, from the wording in the warrant, that even Pat may not have been too sure on that one.  It is stated in the warrant that the subject was discussed with Pat.

It’s time to pull the plug.

Gojo’s Traveling Medicine Show

Originally Posted by Jester

Can you tell us under what circumstances Jason would find it necessary to give adult medication to his 2 year old daughter? Personally, I can’t think of any. Could he not afford children’s medicine? Did he not know better?

You know this medicine topic is not going anywhere. Too much we don’t know and the cops don’t know or won’t reveal.

Who gave the child medicine? Which medicine? When?

Whose fingerprints on the bottle and dropper (other than the cops who handled it)? Any stranger prints on the bottles? Meredith’s prints?

The cops said Michelle’s DNA is not on the dropper. Why didn’t they include/exclude Jason? How about Meredith?

When and under what circumstance did Jason mention to his mom about diluting medicine? And the list goes on…..

Couldn’t reach Jason this weekend to ask how he and Michelle cared for Cassie when she was sick. Maybe I’ll write him a letter. I do know this was a man who has had extensive training in medicines and their use. I’m not qualified to second-guess Michelle and him. I’m amazed that others on the board do feel qualified to second-guess a man whose background includes supplying medicines to doctors.
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My best guess would be that, if the police have Cassidy’s DNA off the dropper, they also know what was in it.

Police wear gloves when examining a crime scene, Gojo.   Don’t you watch CSI?  My guess is that whoever gave Cassidy the adult medicine left prints on the dropper.  I guess we will have to wait and see.

Hawking pharmaceuticals, no matter how much on-the-job training one gets, does not qualify a salesman to prescribe medication.

No matter how you spin it, Jason told his mother, who told police, that he gave Cassidy adult medications, which he claimed to have diluted.  That, Gojo (the muddled and mendacious), is straight from the horse’s (or ass’s) mouth.

Don’t you ever get dizzy?

$15,000,000 Pig

Gojo Drowns His Sorrows

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Lotta noise on the board tonight. Did anyone see anything new in the court hearing today? I kept looking and reading for a revelation, but was disappointed.And where did the doll come from, anyway? Who placed it by Michelle’s body? Nice touch by someone. Did Spivey mention fingerprints on the doll? Did Spivey mention why the cops waited more than a month before returning for the carpet section with the tiny footprints? Seems Spivey was rather particular about the info he released.

And why was Spivey testifying for this woman anyway? Seems to me a chief investigator would seek to kept himself ‘neutral’ or at least ‘objective’ toward someone he claims is a primary suspect. But maybe that only applies to the professionals.

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“This woman?”

“THIS WOMAN?”

You inconceivable fragment of excrement!

“This woman” happens to be the mother of a murder victim, sitting in court, hearing about the awful death visited upon her daughter by Jason Lynn Young, SLAYER extraordinaire!

Cassidy dropped her doll by her mother’s body.  What part of that do you not understand?

You are a maggot.

Hint:  the bit about the doll was new.

To imply that Detective Spivey is not a professional is ludicrous in the extreme.

“My assignments and experiences have included the criminal investigation of property crimes, crimes of violence against persons, fraud cases, drug investigations, child abuse cases, and covert and electronic surveillance operations.  During the past 17 years as a law enforcement officer, I have received and continue to receive, specialized training through schools, law enforcement agencies (Federal, state and local), and seminars.  This has included specialized training in criminal investigations, interview and interrogation, statement analysis, search warrants, criminal and psychological profiling, criminal investigative analysis, crime scene analysis, crime scene searches, analytical investigative techniques, conspiracy investigations and criminal intelligence.  I currently hold an Advanced Law Enforcement Certificate awarded by the North Carolina Criminal Justice Training and Standards Commission, have completed a Criminal Investigation Certificate Program through the North Carolina Justice Academy, and I am currently a North Carolina State Certified Criminal Justice Instructor.”

Per Search Warrant Probable Cause:

http://www.wral.com/asset/news/local/2009/03/11/4712929/March_10,_2009,_search_warrant_for_Jason_Young%27s_Google_account.pdf

You should be slapped.

Bacon!

Gojo is Of the Devil

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Quote: Originally Posted by Barbara2

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Doesn’t Meredith have Cassidy at home again starting tomorrow? (Oh happy days!)

Oh, Happy Days? Good grief, Barbara! Dragging that little girl to Raleigh, to New York, disrupting her schedule, surrounding her with women gushing how cute you are! just like your mother! are you lonely? do you miss your mother? here are some more pictures of your beautiful mother! don’t you wish she was with you today? oh I know we wish your mother could be here with you on your birthday oh maybe you can get another mother soon….. Happy Daze indeed! And don’t even go there about whose fault it is. I’m not talking about the killers, nor any other adults. I feel for the little girl. Does it have to be this way? I think not. Is it this way? It is. The shame is that you and others on the board are so joyful that it is this way.

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Your meanness is showing again, Gojo.

You have no idea how to raise that child.  Your ideas seem to have been developed in Old Testament times!  How many times do people have to tell you:  Cassidy had a Mommy.  Cassidy had a very good Mommy.  Then, in one fell swoop, Cassidy lost her Mommy, her home, her Auntie Meredith and her Granny Linda.  Didn’t see them.  Didn’t get to talk to them on the phone.  Didn’t receive their presents.

And this was good for her…how…exactly?

Meredith is not vindictive like Cassidy’s Brevard family.  She agreed to visitation with Granny Pat and Daddy.  And, if Granny Pat and Daddy were so concerned about this future for Cassidy where were they on Court Day?  Why weren’t they there to save her from this fate worse than death?

…And you don’t want to talk about whose fault it is?  How about Daddy’s fault for

1)  killing Mommy

2)  taking her away from her home

3)  keeping her away from Aunt Meredith and Granny Linda

4)  returning their gifts, unopened

5)  not showing up to convince the judge that she should stay with him.

I am truly weighing your arguments here.  Let’s see…

Schedule…Time with loving family…Schedule…Time with loving family…

Sorry, Gojo.  Option (B) works for me.

Gojo, you are not a fly on the wall at Meredith’s house, or at Linda’s family reunion; you are a pig, just like your purple-peckered popinjay.

Pretzel Logic

kingbuff Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 406

Quote: Originally Posted by Jester You’re right. I will never understand how you can claim on the one hand that Jason made his own decisions, and on the other hand that he was manipulated into making those decisions.

Here’s the way I understand it. For Jason to challenge the Fishers in court, he would have to be deposed. He and his lawyer decided it would be best for him and Cassie that he not be grilled until the police bag the killers. No, he wasn’t manipulated. He refused to be manipulated. The detective manipulated the Fishers and used Cassie.

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So Jason’s lawyer represents Cassie as well? I wonder how she is paying this lawyer…and what will happen if Cassie’s and Jason’s interests diverge.

Jason’s lawyer is deciding what’s best for Jason. That, in this case, it is also best for Cassidy is incidental.

Jason decided that it was best for Jason to avoid a deposition. His willingness to share legal custody of  “the center of his world” is very telling, of itself. It is very difficult not to conclude one of two things:

a)  he couldn’t make a deposition without incriminating himself, or

b)  he’s tired of Cassidy anyway.

COG, my friend, COG.

Odds are that Cassidy’s grandmother is the main care-giver. A man who can refer to his daughter’s potty-training accident as, “pissed herself all over the floor,” does not sound like a person with much patience for small children.

Nobody has “used” Cassidy, except Jason, who sent her picture to a total stranger whose pants he was attempting to access. I wonder who (or what) (hint:  think purple) was manipulating him then!

And your logic, when you try to assert that detectives manipulated Linda and Meredith, is so convoluted as to defy…well…logic.

If Jason had agreed to allow reasonable visitation between Cassidy and his inlaws, this probably would not have happened.

Oh…wait…he couldn’t do that, could he? After all, there is just no telling what all that tiny (and very articulate) child would have said to Auntie and Granny, is there?

By the way, your attempts to use the language of Mickey Spillane are pathetic and not worth the energy it would take to laugh.

My God! It’s Contagious!

TO JUNE’S FAMILY, PLEASE IGNORE THE WICKED SICK PEOPLE WHO POST UNDER AN ANONYMOUS NAME ON THIS BOARD.THEY HAVE TO BE FILLED WITH DEMONS THAT POSSESS THEIR SOUL AND GOD HELP THEM WHEN THEY DIE. PRAY THEY PROCLAIM!!!!!GOD WOULD TURN A DEAF EAR TO EVERYONE OF THEM,ONLY THE DEVIL WOULD HEAR THEIR WORDS AND LAUGH WITH GLEE. THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO BE THE MOST MISERABLE PEOPLE ON THE FACE OF THIS WORLD AND ARE WASTING PRECIOUS OXYGEN. THEY ARE SLIM.. YOU HAVE A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE FOUND EACH OTHER ON THE INTERNET BECAUSE NO ONE WITH ANY KINDNESS WILL HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEM. I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THE DEVIL IS VERY PROUD OF HIS CHILDREN WHO POST HERE.
YOUR MOTHER ONLY BELIEVED IN OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM AND DEFENDING ANYONE OF THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. SHE IS BRIGHT AND HER POST WERE ALWAYS RESPECTED BY ALL, WHO KNOW HOW TO FEEL FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
MY PRAYER ARE WITH HER. DON’T GIVE UP ON HER. TELL HER COUGERMOM SENDS HER PRAYERS AND LOVE…COUGERMOM

RPD,HERE IS YOUR CHANCE TO TRACE MY ISP,I AM SURE SCOTT WILL HAND IT TO YOU WITH A SMILE ON HER FACE.
JASON YOUNG WILL NOT BE ARRESTED FOR THE MURDER OF HIS WIFE,YOU AND YOUR BUDDY SPIVEY ARE LOSER’S……

THIS SHOULD GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO DISCUSS FOR A FEW DAYS, YOU NEEDED THIS GIFT I JUST HANDED YOU. LOL

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This person has caught the madness from Gojo!

I’m not normally in the habit of picking apart the grammar and spelling of message board posters. We all type as fast as we can, and hit “send” in a hurry in order to keep the discussion going. However, in the case of this post, the CAPS, the grammar and the general illiteracy appear to speak volumes about the character of the poster.

In case you missed the original at (Friction Powered Exchange), consider this a link to it.

The post was written after some mild disbelief was expressed. The post that started it all stated that one of the “Jason Is Innocent” idiots at InSessions was “in a coma state.” As that idiot, or somebody who is a clone of her, is still posting at InSessions, the reports that she is in a “coma state” seem greatly exaggerated.

Somebody just had to yell. Somebody is an even bigger idiot than was thought.

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THE WICKED SICK PEOPLE WHO POST UNDER AN ANONYMOUS NAME

Really? How many “wicked sick people” can post under one “anonymous name?” I’m fairly certain you know at least a couple of answers to that!

THEY HAVE TO BE FILLED WITH DEMONS THAT POSSESS THEIR SOUL AND GOD HELP THEM WHEN THEY DIE.

So. They possess only one soul among them. OoooKaayyy? And you want God to help them when they die. I hate to tell you this, but that makes no sense. None.

After further imprecations about demons etc., the author adds this little gem:

THEY ARE SLIM..

OK. I’ll bite. Why is this little compliment thrown in here? The poster has no way of knowing the fat content of those who think Jason Guilty and Reborn June, an idiot. This, also, makes no sense.

YOU HAVE A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE FOUND EACH OTHER ON THE INTERNET BECAUSE NO ONE WITH ANY KINDNESS WILL HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEM.

No, you frigging moron! Scout has attracted some very intelligent people that your ilk has succeeded in getting removed from InSessions, because you and your ilk can’t stand to hear the voice of reason. And, by the way, you can hardly characterize the systematic trashing of the victim’s family as the product of kindness.

YOUR MOTHER ONLY BELIEVED IN OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM AND DEFENDING ANYONE OF THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

The phrase “anyone of” in this sentence, is incorrect. “Defending anyone’s Constitutional Rights” might make the sentence easier to understand. People can be DEPRIVED of their Constitutional Rights, but June’s schtick is IUPG. “Innocent Until Proven Guilty.” As the warrants and investigation all point to Jason Young, the husband of one victim and father of the other, Reborn June has to find somebody else to accuse, to sort of even the score. Who is keeping score is unclear, but June has to by God do her bit to make sure the guilty party is not deprived of his God-given right to be considered innocent until a court proves him guilty. Never mind that, that logic, taken far enough, would preclude anyone ever being investigated for anything…if, for instance, the police had to abide by it.

The writer continues to have issues with subject/verb agreement, as seen here:

HER POST WERE ALWAYS RESPECTED BY ALL, WHO KNOW HOW TO FEEL FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
MY PRAYER ARE WITH HER.

Then, we move on to paranoia:

RPD,HERE IS YOUR CHANCE TO TRACE MY ISP,I AM SURE SCOTT WILL HAND IT TO YOU WITH A SMILE ON HER FACE.

Here’s the thing, “Cougermom.” Your ISP is your Internet Service Provider. The company to which you pay money to connect you to the internet. Road Runner, for instance, or Comcast, or BellSouth…you get the picture. As each of these companies connects thousands, possibly millions, of people to the internet, having this bit of information is not very valuable in tracking a particular user. Am I correct in thinking that is the source of your concern? In that case, you really mean that you are challenging RPD to trace your IP, or Internet Protocol. That is the set of four numbers, separated by dots, that identifies your computer, or modem. Unless, of course, you use wireless internet, or AOL. In that case, your IP changes every time you long onto your computer. If being identified worries you, you might look into that.

I am still trying to figure out who “SCOTT” is, and why he should have a smile on “her” face. You do realize that “Scott” is a man’s name, right?

JASON YOUNG WILL NOT BE ARRESTED FOR THE MURDER OF HIS WIFE,YOU AND YOUR BUDDY SPIVEY ARE LOSER’S……

Clairvoyance is not one of your strong suits, is it? By the way, the apostrophe (‘) indicates a possessive. If you are trying to indicate a plural, just add an “s” to the singular word, and skip the apostrophe (‘).

THIS SHOULD GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO DISCUSS FOR A FEW DAYS, YOU NEEDED THIS GIFT I JUST HANDED YOU. LOL

You have joined two separate clauses with a comma. That would have given my English teachers a bad case of the blue pencil shudders. You COULD use a semi-colon (;), or just make it into two sentences.

And, while I think you exaggerate your interest factor at Friction Powered, you have given me a few moments of amusement.

LOL.

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